[you have become to westernised] Really? How many western country
out there have death penalty, there are a whole bunch of western
countries that have death penalty also, including the US. And sometime
in US justice system, people get found guilty of crime, even when there
are no evidence proving they are guilty, sometime even when there are
overwhelming evidence proving they are not guilty. I've seen so many
cases in the US, where people get found guilty of serious crime such as
rape and murder, simply because another person said so, sometime even
with overwhelming evidence proving he is not guilty of such and the
person accusing him of rape or murder, is simply making it up. I've
heard a story in the US, where a man was found guilty and spend 20 years
in prison for rape, because a woman made it all up, simply because she
don't want to pay for the damage she did to his car. Despite all
evidence point to the fact, she was never rape and she made it all up.
It took 20 years, till the truth finally come out and this woman is
arrested for lying to the court. God know how many innocent people is
in prison in the US, due to this flaw within their justice system? And
this is the leader of the free world!!!
And talk about
the western world in widen, is it really as great as we think, in term
of human right? Latin America have some of the worse violation against
free speech in the modern world. (Not kidding, it is even worse then
Communist China, although it is probably better then North Korea.)
Their defamation law, have something that veto any person, to say
anything ill against any government official, disregards to
circumstances. Remember how we all speak ill of Julia Gillard when she
was in power? Even calling her witch? If this is Latin America we
would all be thrown in prison for it. And isn't Latin America a part of
the western world? Yes it is. Even China, allow the media to speak
ill of the government to a certain extend. (not as freely as Australia
of course) But point made, there are western countries that are even
worse then China, when it comes to free speech.
Also do
I have to remind you what happened in South Africa prior to Nelson
Medulla came into power, they literally had a party call "white
supremacy party" ruling the country and suppressing the black and here
in Australia, it is even worse, may I remind you of the stolen
generation? Within Australia's own constitution there is the following
two lines written in 1911 [For the purposes of the last section, if by
the law of any State all persons of any race are disqualified from
voting at elections for the more numerous House of the Parliament of the
State, then, in reckoning the number of the people of the State or of
the Commonwealth, persons of the race resident in that State shall not
be counted.] Chapter 1 the Parliament Part 3 House of Representative
article 25 and [51.The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution,
have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the
Commonwealth with respect to: -(xxvi.) The people of any race, for whom
it is deemed necessary to make special laws:] Chapter 1 the Parliament
part 5 Power of the Parliament article 51 (and for your reference here
is a online copy of the constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia in
accordance to
the website of Australia Federal Parliament
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/~/link.aspx?_id=F74707A5A4934E05A67EE5969B156435&_z=z)
It is through these two line that the stolen Generation is possible.
And till date, no amendment to the constitution has gotten rid of these
two lines yet. (remember a while ago there was a TV ad that talk about
making a petition to change the Australia constitution, to protect the
right of Indigenous Australians? It is talking about getting rid of
these two lines) In addition, I took the privilege to look at the
constitution of a none western country. This is the constitution of
Taiwan it wrote 中華民國人民,無分男女,宗教,種族,階級,黨派,在法律上一律平等。(English Translation:
All people within the Republic of China [former name of Taiwan as a
nation] disregards to male or female, religion, race, social status,
political preference are equal in the eye of the law.) Do you know
where this constitution was written? 1924, only 13 years after the
Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia come into practice (1911)
and may I remind you, the stolen generation didn't end till 1970s and it
is not possible for it to end, if it isn't because of the work of
George Whitler as Prime Minister in the 1960s. So once again, a none
western country is kicking a western country's ass in the arena of human
right and to add to the insult, it is kicking Australia's ass. And if
you think Taiwan's constitution has this line is due to a western
influence, once again I have to disappoint you. Do you know who is the
first person in recorded history to say something along such line?
Confucius over 2500 years ago. He said that the nation is rightfully
the common property of its people, not the King's therefore it is the
responsibility of the King to rule in public interest, when the King
perform his responsibility well, the people should be loyal to the King,
but when the King fail to perform his duty well, the people should
remove the King from office and replace him with a new one. Later
Emperor Liu Bang of China made it the law in 195BC that "All men are
equals in the eyes of the law disregards to Emperor or peasant" although
there might be some ancient scholar in Rome or Greek that say similar,
especially consider they are democracy, it definitely have no influence,
considering after the fall of the Roman Empire, we saw the rise of the
cult of "King is god's given right" and as a result of it, a whole set
of none sense value that emerged as a result of this cult. It is not
until the formation of the United States of America, we for the first
time seen lines of such nature in a western law, where in the US
constitution (I can't remember the exact word) it said that all men are
equal under god, within the United States of America, as god intended.
Also do you know which country is the first that gave
women the right to vote? Turkey. It is not a western country, it is a
Middle Eastern country. Do you know, which country is the first to
introduce compulsory education system, for both boys and girls? Japan.
They introduce it during the 19th century, for all boys and girls to
have to finish to year nine. The western world don't even have
compulsory education system back then, let along allowing girls to go to
school. We are all familiar with the Irish Independent war, back by
the CIA, but whom were the South Irish fighting against? The United
Kingdom. That is right. And just a reminder, the UK is a western
country. (I can hardly believe it myself, when I first heard of it.
Never thought the modern UK is capable of such thing)
Here
is another two documentaries about the violation of human right in the
western world they are both very good documentaries, you should take a
look at it, when you have time "Criminal Catholic Nuns: Exposing the
Vatican's organized crime scheme of child trafficking"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GViURI-fxAU "Spain Baby Market: Catholic
Church's Baby Trafficking Schemes Exposed "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVy4vsy6rfY These all happen very
recently. And to add to the irony it is both led by the Catholic
church, the biggest religion organization of the western world.
In
addition, the violation of human right by Cold War Soviet Union, goes
without saying and mind I remind you, the Soviet Union was a part of the
western world. Also we laugh at the Iraq going on at each other throat
even going to war with each other base on religion difference, but do
you remember which western country also went into civil war due to
religion difference? Bosnia. And despite the war is now over, the
wounds and tension left from that era is still there.
Now,
you might say these are all the past, but really? The issue against
free speech in Latin America is still going on right now. And Ukraine,
do you know the deal there? They were in a dictatorship rule of a
tyrant, just like Sudan Hassan's once rule in Iraq and Colonel Kaddafi's
once rule on Syria. When the people of Ukraine saw how through the
usage of people power, got dictator to step down in Egypt and Syria the
people of Ukraine thought they can do the same thing. They got rid of
the dictator alright, but only to get Russian troops marching onto their
front door and may I remind you, when Tony Abbott speak out against
Russia's President for taking down a commercial jet. The Russia
President send three warship knocking on our front door and only back
off after UK say speak for Australia against Russia and US send navel
present in Australia water. This only happen last year and the war in
Ukraine is still going on now. And just a reminder, both Russia and
Ukraine are western countries. Also here is another documentary of
human right issue going on in South America, which you can have a look
at when you have time "The Sick Men Travelling to Brazil for Sex With
Children" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgJMc-_yxmA and mind I remind
you, Brazil is a western country. So, your idea of the west as a
beacon of enlighten of human right, in comparison to the none west, is
that really so true or is it merely a fantasy, a myth?
I
am not saying the western world = brutal human right violation savages.
I am not even saying the west = human right violation. Nor am I saying
the none west out perform the west in human right. Although there are
certain none western countries that out perform the some western
countries in some or all arenas of human right. There are also some
western countries that out perform some none western countries in some
or all arena of human right. For example, Saudi Arabia women right
issue a very bad and there are no modern western country that perform so
horrible in term of women right. But the fact you think the west to be
this beacon of enlighten in the face of the none west, sorry mate,
there is simply nothing about that is true.
Also if you
think the entire western world is of 1st world status, you are wrong.
This is a report out of Latin America itself, about the issue of poverty
in the area. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2AgVg3ong This is a
report from the European Union about European countries, where over 50%
of the public live below the poverty line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_NxUFIRm9k here is another documentary
call "These Russian Street Kids have Been Totally Cheated of Childhood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ39fZWkgnM
Also if you
think the west invented everything and single handed create the modern
world, once again you are wrong. The west was only the main contributor
to creating the modern world during the 19th century and early to mid
20th century (and starting from early to mid 20th century it is only the
US, that make such contribution) and prior to that there was much
contribution by the Middle East and Asia and was in fact the prime mover
and although due to the influence of white supremacy culture, the then
western world don't want to admit to it, they have a major influence on
the west, also and without it, the industrial revolution, age of
enlighten or even getting out of the dark ages, would be nothing more
then a fantasy for the western world. There is a very good series of
documentary from the SBS that talk about these none western influence
upon the west, you should take a look at it too. "ISLAM's contribution
to Europe and Influence to European Renaissance"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nznATCvo5Y and here is another
documentary from US, about how China's influence during the Middle Ages
revolutionized European military culture and allow the colonial age to
begin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJz-W9HelXU
But
unfortunately too many people in the west, want to turn a blind eye to
facts that undermine this myth of the wise and mighty west, because this
myth make their pride feel good. And it is like psychologist says,
when a person believe in something badly enough they look for example
and construct opinion that is in favor of it and ignore everything else
that suggest otherwise, and people would believe in something so badly,
because it provide them some form of conscious or unconscious payoff and
the pay off of the myth of the wise and mighty west, is to make
people's pride feel good. And today, we are seen this situation, as I
said, whether you agree with death penalty or not, I highly doubt there
would be such outrage for the execution of these two men, if they are to
be executed in a western country. And as I said, there are only two
type of people that would speak in favor of them, (1) those whom are
gangsters themselves (2) those whom are influence by the concept of
western supremacy which is a son of white supremacy (and alright, two
more groups, their friends and family and media and politicians that wan
to cash in on sympathy for these two men)